According to the Sex Offender Registry, Lecher will be paying his debt to society for the rest of his life. What is the nature of that debt? It's that the public has the right to know what he is. That's why he's a registered sex offender for life.

The American Psychological Association says child molesters never change their interest in molesting children.

People have a right to know these things if they are thinking about allowing their children to go to the Frosty Freeze on West Court near Oakhill Street. This information should also be factored into the decision of bringing children there.

Many of the people who go there don't know these important facts. Maybe more of them know it now.

Gazettefan,
I understand your points about the man who owns Frosty Freeze. I'd just like to point out, that as disturbing as his crimes were, he's NOT on trial right now. He has already "paid his debt to society". Am I suggesting that everyone let there children go to Frosty Freeze unattended? Absolutely not. I am suggesting, however, that this story's origins had nothing to do with Kip Lecher. Again, he's served his debt to society. I think we should stick to the original article.

Your right, it's not hard to spot bad guys in the 4th ward. Unfortunately the police have this silly rule called the 4th amendment which prevents them from searching every shady looking guy walking down the street. Also we may see illegal stuff going on, but too few people are willing to call or be a witness to this activity, and crooks have a funny way of stoping their bad stuff when a car with "POLICE" written in big words drives by.

You have to admire Jim Halbach who seeing that the horse was dead ('mee mees) traded it for a plea bargain and walked away. Thus ends the Williams-Halbach fued that started over a denied liquor license all those years ago.

I notice a lot of moralizing in the previous posts. Businesses respond to a demand. No demand, no business. Maybe the place to start is to dry up the demand for these kinds of clubs/establishments.

nytemist - Did you have $7000 in cash in your house? If so I'd be interested in 1)Why 2)What do you do for a living and 3) If you knew right away that this person stole it, why did you let them in your home if you obviously had distrust in them?

The American Psychological Association says that pedophiles never change their interest in molesting children. Anyone who spends money at his ice cream place on West Court near Oakhill St. is financing his legal defence for the next time he's on trial for child molestation.

http://offender.doc.state.wi.us/public/s...

janesvillean left this on the other blog.

The child molester's name is LECHER, unbeliveable.

Plea bargains exist because JURIES CAN ACQUIT. It's as simple as that.
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justmythoughts: Kip Lecher is not allowed to hire anyone under 18 to work at Frosty Freeze. It is in his plea agreement. He spent four months in jail and remains on probation. He paid restitution, and will be on the sex offender registry for life.

WCCA:
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetails.do;......

WISDOC:
http://offender.doc.state.wi.us/public/s......

There's probably nothing wrong with a continual slam of the creep who molested kids. His name is Kip and he owns the ice cream place on West Court near Oakhill. Anyone whos spends money there is financing his pedophilic lifestyle.

right on gazettefan! ive got two kids and I told them that they are not to go anywhere near that place EVER!!!!!!

That post should be OK. It's mostly true. The slam against the government is just an opinion.

True, the creep should still be in prison. Don't know why his sentence didn't include his being out of the ice cream business.

The real shocker is that parents with kids go there and put money in his bank account. I always figured that the people who still go there don't read the paper and keep up on the news. But I met a mother who takes her kids there and she made some pathetic excuse for the creep. People should stop spending money there.

To be clear: It's the Frosty something or other on West Court near Oakhill St.

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Great point Beloitguy. When I drive by Frosty Freeze I am appalled at all the people that still go to that pedophiles establishment. All the things he did to those kids and he is STILL allowed to run an ice cream shop, whos main clientelle is children. He must be on the citys good side unlike Halbach. Guess thats just the way the govt. of this city operates.

Just because people are in authority doesn't make them infallible and the ends does not always justify the means. I don't blame people for being pawns in the chess game the city is playing with this guy. It's doubtful that all police or council members are bad but people are known by the company you keep. So you should all be glad I'm keeping company with you. I'm sure these people have families and want to keep their jobs too. Anyone who's worked for the police/sherrif department or DA's office knows that it wouldn't take much to lose their job by getting on someones bad side. Many agencies are going under budget cuts and you can bet that the ones they get rid of first are the ones who don't play ball. As far as showing a uniform or suit respect they can earn it just like the rest of us are expected to by doing the right thing.

Also, B'moon claims that police activity in the Fourth Ward is for the sole purpose of lowering property values so that the administration can gobble up houses and lots.

Many of you are making the same rants against the police and the administration that she does. Why don't you people tell her to shut up; then you should approach the city for more police activity in the Fourth Ward.

Good post, lakennedy.

mymoro, nytemist, go to the Chief, Deputy Chief, and the Gazette with those accounts and let us know what happens. If nothing productive happens, bring it all here with names and full details.

nytemist, i had a similair experience with the JPD. My home was broken into by some losers, they took money, jewelry, and other valuables. even my photo album(dont understand that one). anyway, the JPD came and took the report and left. well when i sat down later that day to get on my computer i noticed that the morons had used my computer. They even went to a site where an email address was needed to login and their email was their name! i called JPD immediately and it took over two hours for an officer to show up. an the real kicker is I could see an officer sitting in his car in the parking lot across the street from my house.

ok officer kennedy. Take a ride around the fourth ward, tell me what you see. unless you are really a JPD officer, then I know what youd see (with your obvious blinders on) NOTHING. but to the rest of us we see gangbangers, drug dealers, and god knows what else.

and your "huge crackdown" was mostly by the RCSD not the JPD. your slobbering affection of the JPD is laughable at best. There may be a good officer or two but they cant do it all, and they have to do what their commanding officers tell them to do.

as am I!!!!!!!! disapointed

mymaro,
If you'd bother to review the public record for the past year, you'd see the police have put plenty of people away. There has been a huge crack down on drugs, graffiti, and yes--much to your dismay--prostitution.
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For those of you who continuously point to how corrupt Janesville's city officials are, I ask you to take a little responsiblity. These are the people who represent/guide YOUR city. Do something constructive to change it if you feel so strongly about it.
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I'd also like for all of you who feel so comfortable negatively summarizing the entire police department--because of an experience some of you have had with ONE police officer--to question what kind of message you're sending out into the community. I was taught that you ALWAYS respect a police officer, fireman, well, anyone older than you, for that matter. You have every right to question them, but doing so in such an arrogant matter is uncalled for. Regardless of your personal opinions, there are excellent officers here in Janesville. They deserve our respect, not these cowardly insults.

I was robbed of $7000.00. I knew it was stolen and who took it within 5 minutes of that person leaving my home. I called the Janesville police, officer came to my home. Knew where the man was who took the money. Did the officer go there to confront and check his vehicle etc? No he called him and asked him to meet him at Perkins!!!! Who in there right mind would show up at Perkins with the money still on them? I have no faith in our police department, they just continue to be like our town is Mayberry.

whocares77, I agree with you totally!!!

If I though Janesville was horrible I would move. All I'm saying is that when some people get into a position of power they use it to their own devices and we shouldn't say everything is great if it isn't. If there is anything good going on in this city it's because of the citizens that live here. I wouldn't give those in authority much credit for that.

countrydawg, that would be a GREAT idea. but it seems the JPD is scared of real criminals. pluse theyre all crying in their donuts because their run of lap dances paid for by us tax payers is over. lets see, it took over a year to get enough "evidence" as to what was going on at screemin, how long would it take to collect enough evidence to put a drug dealer or armed robber away?

Now that this issue is out of the way the janesville PD can finally start on the street gangs. Besides,this is no city of saints. If there was'nt a market would this have happened?

Are there enough bad things going on here to justify a horrible description of Janesville?.

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I don't like horses. If there's a lack of proportion re: the two stories in question, does that justify a horrible description of Janesville?

I like living in Janesville but saying the city is well run is kind of a stretch. Lucky to not be in worse shape then we are yes, better off because it's well run - I highly doubt it. I also doubt if mcs is telling the truth. Thirty years without seeing one case of someone bending the rules? Yeah right - this city is so clean it squeaks.

What a high horse you must ride. in todays paper, you have a correctional officer fired for sexual contact. is he treated like the halbachs or all the women who had their face and address plastered all over the front page? no, they bury his picture only some where inside and then take the story off their headline page on the internet. the officals must have kwon what was going on, there their everyday. i wonder if they will give the jail to a non profit org or are their 2 standards.

Right on, mcs, the paranoia and overfocus on imperfections here while ignoring how well this city is run is astounding. How do these people make it throught the day with all this delusional effluvia sloshing around in their brain pans?!!!

The DA's office did what they were told. It had nothing to do with best serving the community. Take off the blinders.

Does anyone have statistics on the Rock County District Attorney's office?

How many plea bargains do they grant? What percentage of cases are plea bargained?

packerfan, maybe as a result of this experience those women are rethinking what they should do with their lives. It doesn't help to call them names.

The prosecution did what's best for the community. The property will be donated to a worthy cause. And this may be an indication that the defendent is feeling repentant about what he had done with the club.

This case was not only a benefit to the community in general but maybe some of the people close to the matter have learned some valuable lessons.

Now it's time for some the posters here to rethink their ideas about all this.

You're living in Janesville, people. Don't expect much from anyone in an authoratative position here. Honestly, you only have to dig around a little to find out some of what goes on in this community. You have corrupt cops, judges, schoolboard members and those in hospital administration positions...the list goes on and on. Relax man. And if you're able to, move.

Well, villajanesville, now that the strip club is closed, the women kind of HAVE to walk the sidewalks. Too bad there isn't someone willing to run a dive where they and their customers could get together and keep it off the street and in one place where the police could keep an eye on them... Oh, that's right. That was the situation BEFORE the city's collection of Mrs. Grundys made sure the place was shut down.
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From what I've observed from watching Chris Hansen on Dateline NBC on TV, predators aren't cruising around following hookers, they're on the Internet chatting online with your kids.
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I was being facetious in my first post on this article, but if people would stop trying to impose their "Holier than Thou" attitudes on everyone else, Screemin' MeeMees would not have been in the news for so many months, getting a ton of free advertising and metaphorically "waving a red warning flag" to any businesses which might otherwise consider locating in Janesville.
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I've never been in the place in Beloit (or in Screemin' MeeMees, for that matter) but I know they've been around for at least 15 years, quietly conducting their business without a local "Moral Majority" (aka "Mental Minority") stirring things up in the press.
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The only real good thing to come out of this is those rotten screaming tv commercials will go away - Though I'd guess Halbach ran them more to annoy people like you than to drum up business.

RoadKing, I don't correct typos, misspellings, or grammar mistakes. You must have me confused with your conscience.

What's going on here? Are people able to blog from prison?!

Good job Halback I believe in you. The police need to be out getting the drugs off the street. If Clinton can do it in the White house the why can't everyone else get it some where. Now look what we have been through for 8years. Clinton wasn't so bad.

It is truely a vendetta the council has against halbach. He spoke his mind about the way things are in this city, and they did not like that at all. Screemin meemees was a total dump, Ill agree to that anyday. But lets be honest, there really wasnt anything going on there that doesnt go on at EVERY other strip club in the state.

whocares77, good points. could also throw in there the drug dealers and robbers in town. Couldnt they have used some of that money to enhance the "investigation" into finding that lowlife that robbed that old man in broad daylight right downtown? But who can really blame the JPD, they were having the time of their lives during this "investigation", getting lap dances paid for by us taxpayers for over a year.

Sorry g-fan I meant even not eevn.

Give me a break. Why should O'Leary and Mahan be patted on the back for being pawns in some of the city council members bid to get eevn with Halbach. Please. The next thing you know the Gazette will be publishing stories about aliens landing here.

I am leaning towards the "key stone cops" theory.

Like i said in the other post.. he must have someone in is pocket and shelled out lots of money, Hell if were any other persons i bet they wouldnt get off as easy..

how much did they spend on this. according to my calc, it must have costed the city between $500,000 and $600,000. i was wondering why the pot hole on center that wrecked my tire was not filled, or why the swimming pool at riverside park was closed, or why they had to lay off 3 city workers, or why fire station #1 has not been remodeled, etc. i thought it was a short fall in people paying taxes. now i see, the priority was to shut the halbachs down.

Maybe it could be a rent a car place for the fancy new airport the city wants to build across the street Hee Hee

How can Forward Janesville lure new business to town now that it's known we don't have a strip club in town anymore? That makes the city sound regressive, rather than progressive. The city should offer The Bear Chest in Beloit a liquor license if they open a franchise in Janesville, or the city should open up a new TIF (Topless Is Fun) district right away!

Wake up people, they had prostitutes there for years. But apparently that was ok, as long as they aren't in business anymore? Or will they be flying under the radar now?

It is kind of sad that they had to arrest all those other individuals just so they could set up Halbach for an arrest so they could could come up with this plea bargin to close the place.

Man, those are some good looking gents if you ask me! LMFAO