Favre: Pack should let me play elsewhere

Actually...the NFL Network just reported that the whole "he's got a team issued cell phone" bit was misinformation printed by the Journal Sentinel. So...wonder what "proof" the Packer management is going to try to use now?

jvldss~ INTERESTING READ! :) Thank you! :) What is your 'dss' <lol!:) > w/ Thompson, though?! (2-Faced??..SERIOUSLY?! I REALLY DON'T see it!!...KNOW YOUR ROLE FARVE (lol! :), right?!!!! :) PLEASE ELABORATE! :)

I HAD to LMAO :) <..Sorry, BUT! :)..> today watching ESPN & the Favre/Vikings DRAMA saga!! :) :) :) The Packers have PROOF Favre was "conspiring" to leave GB, according to records from a "PACKER" issued cell phone, used by Farve (lol! :), MIND YOU, to CONTACT the VIKINGS!!...That's just TOO FUNNY!! :) :) :)

GL2 the VIKINGS! ;)...If I WERE GM of GB (lol! :), I'd LIKE to say THAT & just GIVE em' #4, BUT w/ ALL the money & politics going on..!!! lol! ;) <I'd HAVE TO BENCH FAVRE for 3 more years!...PUT HIM IN, ONLY when Rodgers was hurt!...> THAT SAID, as well as OUR TEAM is "younger" & MADE #4 look REAL "GOOD" (...persay!! sp. I KNOW! :) LAST YEAR!!!

...BUT, AS DID, the TEAM that WON #4 <VERY GOOD HANDS behind the "Wild Thing!" lol!> a SUPERBOWL!!!...AS WELL AS, the TEAM that TRIED to REPEAT the same victory the next year!!!>...That's when Farve's (lol!:) "discipline" LEFT :( :( :( !!! ...BUT, ~WELCOME~ <discipline AGAIN!> Thompson & McCarthy...BUT Farve (lol!:) NO LIKE & wants to jump ship!!!!

BTW~Where'd momof5 go????? :) :) :) LMAO! :)

~WELCOME RODGERS!!~

Be careful there, villajanesville...Please DON'T be ignorant (lol! :) & make mymaro (..whom is JUST a 'GREEN BAY FARVE' Fan!) "CRY"! :( ...Then the drivel, ONCE AGAIN, begins to flow from his nose..LMAO! :) BTW~ you said, "I don't think he could handle the pressure." Exactly!! ;) (..'My thought'~ COULD HE EVER?!!! Nope!....NOT REALLY! lol! :)

If Brett wants back let him compete for the starting job. Best man wins.

More great speculation:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/2...

I think its funny how people criticize where someone is from. How many famous people have came from small towns..

do you know what truth is villajanesville? If you do then maybe you could speak the truth instead of your ignorant drivel.

Truth hurts, doesn't it mymaro? Go down and mow his grass if you love him so.

Thankfully the Mississippi Mud Slinger and Teddy Two Face both kept their considerable mouths shut for one night to honor the Hall of Famers.
This standoff between two stubborn egomaniacs can only result in a lose lose situation for the organization and one of its greatest legends.
1. Favre stays retired and the Packers lose a quarterback who demonstrated last year that he has some gas left in the tank.
2. The packers won't release him because that would be a foolish business decision. As tarnished as Thompson's reputation is now with this Favre mess he should be fired on the spot if he grants Favre his outright release.
3. The Packers trade him. Unlikely because he wants to play for a winner and the winning teams have good quarterbacks, duhhh. The teams that would be interested in him are mostly very bad teams. Brett needs that national limelight.
4. They bring him back as the starter. Rodgers is gone in free agency. Brett retires (maybe, maybe not, maybe, maybe not) and we are stuck with either Brohm or Flynn next year.
This mess is the result of incredible arrogance demonstrated by both Thompson and Favre, neither of whom deserves our respect as Packer fans in the handling of this. Rather than building on a fantastic 13-3 season we are all left twisting in this turmoil. I can only wonder what kind of message this sends to all the young, impressionable players on the Packers.

villajanesville, do you EVER have anything of substance to say? anything halfway intelligent? First off he isnt 40, hell be 39 soon. secondly how can you say hes washed up? He had better numbers than almost every QB in the league last year. with the exception of Tony Romo and the cheater Tom Brady. The only thing I see on here that is washed up is you ignorant babbling comments.

Let him play elsewhere? Sure. Just so, so many franchises want to sign a has been, washed up 40 year old whiney athlete from Kiln, Mississippi. And even if he did get signed, he would be more of a circus side show than a viable football player. I don't think he could handle the pressure.

ACCURATE analysis ;)...I should say!!! lol! :)

Thanks for the info/clarification JCK & momof5 for the info! :) (..Doesn't seem "fair" <just my opinion> to have to give him THAT much, since, I feel, he basically QUIT the PACK, but...?!?!
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JohnDoe~You could NOT have had found a more ACCURATE article about "Princess Farve"! lol! :) :) :) Dead on! ;)

OMG why doesn't Favre let the younger guys make a living. Has he ever heard there is no "I" in team... he is not the team??? There is plenty of volunteer work he could do if he needs to feel good!

Teddy should not be an idiot and let Favre comeback. Why rely on a guy who has only started 2 NFL games ever compared to a guy who has never missed a start in 16 years even when his father passed away. We were so close to a superbowl berth last year it's just dumb not to let Favre comeback we are a better team with him.

NFL licensing contributes 3.5% to 4% of revenues the past few years and all of that isn't just Favre jerseys. The two biggest components to revenue are ticket sales and broadcasting revenues (shared with all other teams). Favre's salary is nearly double what the Packers made in licensing last year.

time to pack it up folks: after a series of calls last night, Brett has decided to stay retired and not apply for reinstatement.
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John_Doe: I never said Brett wasn't without culpability.
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why_the_fuss: Could very well be. But, Sunday night--and Monday night--Packer games still have a capacity crowd. It is a neat experience, but boring at best. I suspect it has more to do with Brett not being there than it does with it being on a Sunday. Guess we will find out next year when it's back on a Saturday.
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Ted Thompson has clunked heads with the Favre family since he got to GB. And, as someone said, thee with the bigger bladder wins. While I suspect a perforation in his near future, Thompson is the bigger bladder holder for now. And maybe colon.

jvldss - revenue is much more than ticket sales. The Packers sold more apparel (which is licensed through the NFL and the teams get a cut) between 1996 and 2000 than they did the previous 15 years combined. There is much more money in selling jerseys, shirts, hats, and other items than there is in tickets.

Interesting read:
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http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/2...

Hockey, I agree completely with your comments except the impact of releasing him. Releasing him would have less impact on the cap. When Thompson placed Favre on the reserve/retired list it took his salary off the cap. If he is released it will remain off the cap.
However at the same time it accelerated what remains of his signing bonus which is money that must be considered relative to the cap. Though I don't have the exact numbers I do know that the accelerated bonus is much less than his salary so the team comes out ahead if he is released.
However I agree it's a business and it will be a cold day in hell when they release him.
I personally believe that when the dust settles he will remain retired.

soside, Favre has a contract with the PACKERS that still has three years to go. It is mute at this point because Ted Thompson has placed him on the reserve/retired list. However if he requests reinstatement he is a PACKER and the contract is reinstated and remains in force. Therefore the PACKERS are obligated to honor the contract he has with them. I'm not a lawyer and I don't know all the legal ins and outs of the situation but I know for certain that this is the case because Thompson among others have stated it in interviews.

When two egomaniacs are engaged in a pissing contest, the bigger bladder wins and, in this case, that bladder belongs to Thompson and not Favre.

With a ticket waiting list of 70,000 fans that translates to, not hundreds of years, but thousands of years, I don't think the Packers are too concerned with "lost" revenue if Favre does retire or plays elsewhere. The Pack sold out in the 70's and 80's when they were horrible and will continue to sell out whether or not Favre is the quarterback. The true Packer fans support the team and not any one player.

The Whitlock article is money!

If Favre does start this season and Rodgers is again second string, Rodgers will probably opt for free agency and Favre may/may not retire after this season leaving the Packers with two unproven rookie QBs next year - ouch!

I think family night not being sold out has less to do with Favre and more with it being on a Sunday night - when people have to go to work the next day.

My point was that Campen is / was a "friend" of Brett's, and just a bit player in this "game."
Friends don't do that to friends.
Just shows where Favre's coming from.
More culpable in this than most want to admit.

JohnDoe: and you don't think the Packers organization hung Brett and/or the Vikings out in the breeze with their lame sophomoric allegations of tampering?
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It's a pissing match at this point, which is pretty obvious. There was a very well written article by Jason Whitlock to TT on FoxSports.
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BTW--I "told you" 3+ weeks ago that Brett would be back. BEFORE any of this was made public and it was all being dispelled as rumor.
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why_the_fuss: Not everything in life is black and white. I told you the Packers--and who is the face of the Packers??--TT and McCarthy--were going to do something (following the Greta van Susteren interview). And....they did. Just because they didn't hire a sky-writer and sign their name in lipstick doesn't mean it wasn't from them. Doh!
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And, I will agree, Brett is a grown man and shouldn't have to be wooed back into playing or feeling welcome. HOWEVER, that is the name of the game in professional sports. You (the GM, franchise) stroke the ego of a big name player to lure them into playing for your team. Why? It's a business. Big name players (with or without talent) produce. What do they produce? A lot of things. First and foremost though, they produce butts in seats. Without that, the team has less revenue. And, with less revenue, the team has less promise. Case in point: Family night. It's been sold out in a matter of HOURS for the last 4 years (family night wasn't held for 2 years because of renovations). However, 3 WEEKS after tickets going on sale, there were still more than 10% available. And, with the chatter of Favre's return, they have sold down to about 5% remaining.
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If Brett isn't at training camp, it's because of TT.
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Here's the link to the Whitlock article. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/83519...
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PS--soside4life: You are wrong. Back-up, starter, 3rd string, or Gatorade MAN--Brett will draw his contractual salary for 39 million over the next 3 years once he is reinstated. Stay tuned for that debate on Monday.......

I keep reading that he was forced to retire. Give me a break . It doesn't appear that Brett can be forced to do anything he doesn't want to.
For Pete's sake, what does he want from the Packers? A dozen roses delivered to his door every day? Chocolates on his pillow? A mix tape from Ted?
He has to know, too, that the Packers will unconditionally release him when Hell freezes over. Football is a business, and the dumbest business decision would be to let him go wherever he wants and get nothing in return, plus take the salary cap hit for releasing him. Ain't gonna happen.

soside, you are definitely wrong. If Favre is reinstated he has a contract and the PACKERS will owe him every penny of the the $12 million it calls for.
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WHY is that JCK? (..Sorry, I must NOT understand the "rules" governing! :) PLEASE ELABORATE for me! :)

I'm not sure why everyone wants to attack momof5...sounds like she at least knows SOMETHING and is trying to share it, but obviously Mr. Favre and Mr. Thompson have their own agendi (is that a word?). Personally, I think if Thompson wasn't so gd stubborn this whole mess wouldn't have happened in the first place.

momof5....Since you seem to be the self proclaimed person-in-the-know concerning all things Favre...what's the deal with James Campen?
Sounds like Brett kinda hung him out in the breeze.
But, I'm sure you'll have a different take.

I used to be a die-hard Packer fan until the strike...way back when.
Brett Favre was the reason I returned to the fold.
Brett Favre is the reason I came back to my senses and realized pro sports is vastly over-rated.

momof5 no, but when it rains (which it eventually will) I can say - see I told you so.

By the way Thursday is almost over and no official word from TT and MM about Brett.

prevention: it has nothing to do with holding out for more money.
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why_the_fuss: Huh. No rain so far....

I'd take any women's sport over these "men" who act more like two-year-olds because they can't get the money they think they deserve.

What about the rest of the world that works their butts off and live day-to-day trying to provide for their family.

Give up the greediness professional sports and entertainers. The love of the sport got you there, but the money and whining seems to keep you there.

At least women can deal the money issues in a dignified manner!

momof5 you are starting to sound like the horoscopes. It will rain in your future ... no kidding

Of course he is going to be at the HOF dinner - almost every news souce is stating that.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps...

soside, you are definitely wrong. If Favre is reinstated he has a contract and the PACKERS will owe him every penny of the the $12 million it calls for.

jvldss: OMG! Funny! Now if they could just get the Cowboys entangled in all this....

The picture is now clear! Favre and Thompson are really good buddies and shrewd businessmen in a well-planned and executed conspiracy to bring down the North Division rival Minneapolis Vikings by stealing away a potential draft pick or two (and their dignity) for tampering. Brilliant plan boys - you fooled all of us!

why_the_fuss: Well, it is just the beginning of Thursday. AND, don't forget, the Packers filed a tampering grievance with the league re: Darrell Bevell and Brett Favre converations. Could that have been their unofficial official statement??? Very good, grasshopper.
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It's a PR stunt at this point--TT is backed into a corner and is now fighting back like the sissy he is.
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Does anyone else find it odd that not one word has been uttered by Mark Murphy? There is NO way Bob Harlan would have sat back as the prez of the GBP during a PR nightmare like this and not have said anything.
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He WILL be at the HOF banquet on Saturday because he made a committment to Frankie Winters. And, another inductee and his presenter were both members of the Superbowl XXXI team. It really is about his teammates; not himself or his records.
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BTW-soside4life: it's called a joke. Ya know. Like you think spelling it Farve is funny. LMAO. NOT!

momof5 you stated there would be an announcement wed or thurs from TT/MM -the clock is ticking on your inside information/opinion. Maybe you aren't as connected as you lead us all to believe.

Someone ought to take Brett Favre's diaper off and shove that football up where the sun doesn't shine.......

"......So, perhaps, more people heard his propaganda than normally would have because of God, err, Brett Favre."
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Sorry, BUT that sounds "creepy" to me! (...And THAT'S putting it "nicely"!)

I don't think we have to pay Favre $12 mil. to SIT ON THE BENCH, just the league minimum, right? Only since he now has to apply for re-instatement, etc.? (...I could be wrong though...???!)

I'd (..not "personally" though lol! :) DEFINATELY pay him the minimum, to SIT HIM ON THE BENCH!! ;) ;) ;)

lovetoscrap - Since the subtly of the "back at ya" comment was lost on you, I will explain it to you. It was aimed at your comment about reading other people's post and complaining about them, which is exactly what you were doing. I never complained (just offered an observation) and never used the word trivial (that was someone else). I would love to scrap more, but I have met my quota for the day.

Thompson is to bull headed to let Favre back. Rogers is his guy he wants to up his stock as a GM and show people Rogers is the man. Favre is better than Rogers and should be the starting quarterback for the Packers. If he sucks as the starer sit him and give him the clipboard. No way should they pay him 12 million to hold a clipboard. Pull your head outta the sand Teddy let Brett play!!!

What a shame the Brett Favre saga should end this way.

At last, something redeeming about thekid.

;-)

thekid3477 -
Bite your tongue. Really really hard.

i have not watched/followed the NFL for some time. when i did i rooted for whoever was playing the packers as much as i rooted for my team. im sort of like a free agent 'fan', and i would love nothing more than to proudly wear a vikings/bears/bucs jersey with the number 4 on it to every family gathering i have for the rest of my life..... PLEEEEAAASSEEEE come back mr favre....to a dift team. muahahahahahahaha

Don't get me wrong, I am a HUGE PACKER fan and would love to see Brett Farve play agin. However, for the past 3 years he has allowed speculation regarding his retirement and enough is enough. Going back on his decision is only playing with the players' heads and they don't need that. Farve should not be allowed out of his contract, he made his choice and is a big boy. He should be held accountable for creating this situation and live with his decision.

GO PACK GO (with or without Farve)

It is shocking that Brett picked Greta and Fox News over some of his other close media friends--like Chris Mortenson and ESPN. But, it is what it is now. Let's also remember that Great von Susteren could have said no to the interview. As Roger Clayton, on ESPN, said to end this media circus and chess match, Brett needs to send in his letter to Comm. Goodell to be reinstated. I don't blame the Packers for not taking Favre's word at 100% face value after his change of heart in March. But, sending in the reinstatement request and showing up to training camp would be a pretty good start at healing the wounds. And bringing home Lombardi's Trophy!

Justsome...I wasn't the one trivializing everyone's concern/interest in Brett and the Packers. You were...back at ya!

That makes them friends?

Van Susteren did a piece on Deanna and her battle against breast cancer last season.

momof5: You seem to be plugged in so I have a question: I do realize sportswriters in a lather over Greta getting this interview. So why did Brett choose her over sports media? Is it because she and Deanna are friends? If so, that kind of undercuts Brett's credibility as far as the interview goes, making it sound like he sought her out to get the questions he wanted or know he wouldn't be challenged.

If he wanted to tell his side of the story, all he'd have had to do was sent out a mass e-mail saying he planned a press conference at such and such time and such and such place and the media would have been there like flies on a cowpie.

No big deal, but I wouldn't call Kenny Mayne to interview Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Seems weird to have Greta get this scoop on the sports side, even if she is from Wisconsin.

packfan66: I agree. Greta didn't ask the tough questions that I think many wanted her to ask. She has the sports world (writers, reports) in a tizzy because of it too.
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If you think that no_reply@officialbrettfavre.com is Brett's email address, then yes, you will have his email address if you sign up for his birthday club. You're such a joke.

No, they should not give him an outright release under any circumstances. It is just that the differences now seem so great that it may be impossible for the Packers and Favre to come together. Favre does still represent the best chance for the Packers to win this season. I think the Packers are wrong saying he will have to return as Rodgers backup. That is a huge slap at Favre's considerable ego and makes no fiscal sense - nearly 13 million for a backup QB - plus an unhealthy situation in the locker room. Bring him back and have the two compete (Brohm as well) for the starting job...shouldn't this be the case for every position on the team? Give him a chance to remain the starter and give Rodgers or Brohm a chance to win it from him. Best player plays and that should be Favre if he has devoted his off season to conditioning as he has in recent years.

jvldss: Thanks for your kind words. I agree it's time to get down to football.

However ...

I don't want Favre released, traded or benched. I still think he's the guy. I think Aaron Rodgers was a mistake. The Packers were sort of forced to take him when he was drafted. He was highly touted and was expected to be the first overall pick by the 49ers if they didn't take Alex Smith. When they took Smith, Rodgers stock tumbled down. When he wound up in the Packers lap, and it was widely recognized that Brett wasn't getting any younger, I think they assumed a now or never mentality and took him out of fear they wouldn't get a shot at another strong quarterback candidate. They jumped at a "viable option" so to speak. The scouting reports on Brian Brohm use terms like "franchise quarterback," and I have a better feel about him than Rodgers. Sure Rodgers played well against Dallas, but nobody knew what to expect from him as there was no film on him. Well, now there is. I think things will be much different when opposing defenses get a chance to see him in advance on film this year.

As for Greta Van Susteren being Deanna's friend, I don't know about that and don't care. I just thought the questions Greta asked could have been asked by my 8-year-old with the same effectiveness.

Someone sighed my husband up for this !If anyone wants to feel special you can sign up on "officalbrettfavre.com" and HE will send you a birthday wish !! You can then send him a Thank You !!Opps you got HIS email ! LMAO on some of these comments ! By the way Sears had a nice cutout of Brett and the Snapper .The name of the picture is "Mowing the Back Forty"

Packfan66 hit it on the head: What compelling journalism by Deanna's buddy Greta Van Susteren lobbing softballs at ol' number 4 for not one, but two nights. Thank you. Maybe now the Packers will release him so he can go play for the Minneapolis purple shirted guys.

Favre has now spoken. The Packers have spoken. The truth lies somewhere in between the two interpretations with every Packer fan and Favre fan putting their own spin on things. The fact is the Packers had a great season last year. They remain a very young, talented solid contender in the NFC, but it is time to be done with all this Favre foolishness and start focusing on football with or without Brett. C'mon Brett, c'mon Pack enough posturing already. Everybody man up and be done with it. Let's play some football when camp opens in about a week.

Watched the second half of the interview last night. Now I'm more convinced than ever that Favre is being forthright in wanting to come back and was trying to do the right thing when he retired. If the Packers are smart, they bring him back, make him the starter and put Rodgers back on the bench before trading him away next year. The Packers next longtime starter after Brett should be be Brian Brohm. Give him a year or two under Favre and see what happens. I never liked the draft pick of Rodgers.

By the way, momof5, I've enjoyed reading your posts. Just guessing, but I'd bet Favre has a Snapper lawnmower considering he does advertisements for them. Also, as far as Greta Van Susteren being a shareholder - so am I. But owning worthless stock doesn't mean much more than you're willing to part with $100 bucks to call yourself a shareholder. Also, she really should have done her homework. She referred to the Vikings as "Minneapolis" twice during her questioning. She came across to me as sort of uninformed and, at times, lobbed Brett some softball questions that set up his answers.

That aside, I'm with you. I'm not criticizing at all, just making observations.

Coming into a blog to complain about how there are more important things to blog about is silly.

Really, do any of us know what Bret is going through? I certainly have made decisions that I have regretted because I didn't think them through far enough. But with that said, it isn't fair for him to think that he should just be let go. If he does want to regain access to play football, then he should have to follow the rules, and be traded by the pack. It may seem unreasonable to him, but there are contracts in place to protect ALL parties involved. Not just the ones who think they are irreplaceable.

Justsome1here: Hey, I am a straight-out news junkie and have a pretty good scope on what's happening in our world today. But you know what? I work hard all day long, have three college degrees (including a master's degree in social work), am a certified addictions registered nurse (which means I try to help the chemically dependent 24/7), and try to make my money last in our slacking economy. And guess what? Our bodies release endorphins (feel-good chemicals) when we get a "happy boost" from life (or drugs ... which is why addicts want the junk). Well, right now, at this moment (and for many, many moments over the years) BRETT FAVRE ON A FOOTBALL FIELD is the only thing that gets old SarahB to squirt out some endorphins and feel good. That is why this crisis regarding Brett and the Packers is so friggin' important to me. So I say, "God bless us, everyone" and please bring back Brett!

justsome1here: You made very valid points, and lovetoscrap rebutted them very well. However, to be perfectly honest, if it were not for Brett Favre being on "On the Record" last night before McCain, I wouldn't have listened to one second of his drivel because I would never have tuned in. So, perhaps, more people heard his propaganda than normally would have because of God, err, Brett Favre.
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PS--Check out the Fourward Foundation AND the Hope Foundation. Brett and Deanna Favre have done more to combat the negativities and tragedies many face in their lives than probably all of us have combined!

Spunkmeyer - Ha! Good one. I, however, like to be a little more informed than that before I make decisions.

lovetoscrap -
That's exactly what I was going to say. Except shorter and without all the big words. And the part about the Gores. :)
justsome1here -
If the only thing I'm missing is John McCain speaking, I think I'm going to be okay.

lovetoscrap - Right back at ya!
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P.S. Global warming is not a myth it is a fact.

Spunkmeyer - I am a HUGE Packer fan, always have been, always will be. Unfortunately, people were more interested in what Brett Favre had to say than presidential candidate John McCain, who has the potential to impact everyone's life. To me, this underscores the fact of why this country is in the state that it is in.

Justsome...maybe you should be donating your time feeding the homeless, finding a cure for aids, helping the owners of buildings downtown clean up so they may re-open sooner and our economy won't suffer more than it already is, enlist so that more will be done sooner in Iraq and everyone can come home, get a doctorate so you can spend all your time finding a cure for cancer or use your time to dispel the rumor of global warming (maybe take on the Gores and convince them to downsize their mansion...of course in the name of saving the planet!) But no...you have better things to do, like read other peoples comments on here and complain about it!

justsome1here -
Please don't try to trivialize it because it's not important to you. I'm sure we all realize there are more important things to worry about. We can't spend every minute of every day focusing on every problem that exists. If we want to distract ourselves for a little while over an "adult playing a little boys game," are we really hurting or bothering anyone?

Did this guy find a cure for cancer, use his diplomatic skills to end the war in Iraq, solve global warming, swoop in to rescue GM, or find a cure for AIDS . . . . or is he just an adult playing a little boys game? There are more important things going on than whether Brett Favre will play football in Green Bay.

Im ready to welcome back favre with open arms!

Brett you retired, now disappear already!

jvldss: you're so wrong. Thanks for playing though.

He's still undecided on his lawn tractor, momo. One day its a Deere, the next it's a Cub Cadet. He just can't seem to make up his mind! Imagine that.

easy momof5, just inquiring not accusing, certainly enough of that on these comment pages.

As far as the type of things you are posting, I wasn't really referring to the green walls or what type of car, those are harmless.

jvldss: really? I didn't know Brett dined in the company of flying monkeys. Huh.
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So, if you are having dinner with Brett, tell me, what kind of lawn tractor does he have?

Brett isn't completely innocent here. He's been unclear on his plans each of the past few off-seasons. Each time, the team has to wait before making any moves.
Finally he announces his retirement and the Packers select 2 QB's in the draft, one of them in the 2nd round.
My point is, the team cannot keep doing this. Chances are he'll be worse in '08. After that, he'll continue to decline and debate retirement until his arm falls off.
Go with Rodgers while you can. He's had a perfect NFL upbringing and is probably the best shot we'll have at a real replacement.

I didnt know Bears fans had ANY integrity. Its pretty clear that testerrific doesnt know the meaning of the word. And to call packer fans stupid is pretty hilarious. This coming from a fan of a team that year after year after year runs wrecks(intentionally mispelled) Grosswoman out as their starting QB, cant draft a good running back EVER, and dont know what a wide reciever is. Then theres the defense. BWAHAHAHAHAHA, theyre ANCIENT!!!!!! We could put Bart Starr back at QB and still finish with a better record than the SORRY BEARS!

why_the_fuss: I'm not feeding anyone a line. It is through business ventures that I have the inside track on this. As far as should I be posting this stuff? Why not. I know Brett's email address, but I'm not posting that. Who cares if I post that he has lime green walls (with a beautiful tray ceiling....that is also lime green) in his KITCHEN in Green Bay. Who cares if I post that he has a white Dodge Caliber in Mississippi.
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Word from lunch is that Brett will be at training camp and Frankie's induction. Although, some of the HOF'ers are upset that there is all this hoopla surrounding Brett and no one is really focusing on the banquet Saturday. One should expect a joint statement from Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy Wednesday or Thursday re: Brett rejoining the team. McCarthy is just getting back into town from AZ later this evening; a business venture.

Hey momo - I'm having dinner with Favre tonight so I'll fill you in on the details tomorrow.

Did anyone see Favre's interview with Greta Van Sustern? Man, what a whiner - I'd rather see Jim McMahon come back to QB. Who is Aaron Rogers?

Yeah, and monkeys might fly out of clown's keister, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Bring back Brett. Trade Rogers to Miami for Jason Taylor (if Rogers was to have a good year he'll leave at the end of the year anyway). Once we win the Super Bowl we will worry about it later.

The truth is, Favre is a typical jock: He can't stand being at home with the samo samo. He's got to be hanging with some buddies and getting some strange.

Amen lovetoscrap!

I hope brett comes back to the pack. Rodgers wont last 10 games before he gets hurt. brett is the most entertaing athelte in the world. But however this ends, at least we will still have a better qb than the bears starting this year. lol

Am I missing something here? I keep reading about all the "retirement drama" regarding Brett. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't this the FIRST time Brett has retired? Isn't it the media and the coach/manager who would start to hound him after the last game of the season for the past few years? So, he would have a decision to make and each year he made it. To Play! And play he did, very well I might add. I believe him in all this. The guy has always been as humble and down to earth as the rest of us. Considering Rodgers actions, words and always getting hurt (boo hoo), I highly doubt he will ever reach the level of play that Brett has.

Know your role Brett. You make millions throwing a football. You don't sign free agents (Randy Moss), you don't hire coaches (he wanted Mariucci and not McCarthy), you don't draft players (whining about no weapons). That is Ted Thompson's role, like it or not. And by the way, it is also Thompson's decision whether or not the Packers keep you, release you, or trade you NOT YOURS!

To quote your backup from last season, "Get on board, or shut your mouth".

Favre had a great year, but let's be real..how many times did he drop the ball?
Out with the old..in with the new..

Brett is a selfish self centered headline hunting hick from kiln Mississippi.

Favre was 100% forced to retire? C'mon. Was that just this year or was it really the Pack and not Favre that has been wavering on retirement the past four years.

Trade the ungreatful indecisive sap to Miami where he can get hit 200 times next season and maybe lead them to two wins.

momof5: I have been following your posts on this and I am curious - are you feeding us a line or are you for real? Why do you know so much and is it wise to be sharing this information if it is in fact true.

I am so torn by this saga as both a Packer Fan and Brett Favre fan. Bottom line this is only being made worse by all of the stories. Hard to really know what to believe...

Packfan66: Greta is also a GBP shareholder.

testeriffic: How can you say you are above insults but yet call a group of people, many of whom you do not know any more about than their user id on here, stupid and idiots?
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Maybe this Packer fan is stupid, but I always thought "stupid idiot" was an insulting name not an endearing one
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Uhp. Gotta go. Lunch "date" is here.

packfan66: I thought the same thing when I heard it was on Fox News: ick. BUT... The Favre family and Greta are close friends. And, Greta grew up in Appleton. Deanna reached out to her because she felt comfortable with her and that she would do a respectable job; which she did.
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I'm miffed though that they didn't advertise it was a 2 part interview. If you miss it at 9pm, it's on again at 12midnight....lol

In The End.. Brett will be starting for greenbay... cos he gives them a better chance of winning... simple... Aaron "Glass" Rodgers does not equal winning. He will leave after this year anyway.

And by the way Testeriffic, what impugns you is the fact that you're a jerk. You say you're above insults, yet every line of your post is laced with them.

People,
If you actually watched Favre's interview with Greta Van Sustren on Monday night, the only question you should come away with is why in the world did he choose to give his first interview to that Republican-bias media outlet, Fox News. That was the only thing that made me lose any respect for Brett. In watching him talk, he came across as sincere. He admitted straight out that Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy called him on a regular basis and never made him feel they didn't want him back. Simply put, they wanted an answer - quickly after a long, emotional season - as to whether or not he was 100 percent committed to coming back this year. He said no, but admitted he has traditionally felt that way in March because he needs time to assess how he feels. Like he said, he could have just said yes, come back and taken the money, but he was trying to be honest and fair.
Granted, Brett has put us through this drama each year for a while now. But nobody can question his heart and dedication to Green Bay and all Packers fans. Think what you want, but I'm putting a little more faith in Favre telling the truth here than a former Chicago Bears executive who has his own agenda.

Also, Part 2 of the Favre interview will be on tonight at 9 p.m.

PS--If anyone out there is doubting Brett's commitment level: don't. Brett and Deanna (especially Deanna) HATE the media attention and publicity. However, for DEANNA to email Greta von Sustren Sunday evening and ask for her to get Brett's side, means that Favre and his family are 100% committed to playing football. Breleigh is a daddy's girl and she wants her daddy to play football. Never underestimate the power of a daddy's girl! LOL
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I'm having lunch with a Packer Hall of Famer this afternoon. I will see what other info I can get (ie if he is still slated to be a presenter on Saturday and how the players feel).
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PS--Calm your nerves. Brett wants to play. But, he won't play for another team. Yes, I know. He asked for his release. Blah Blah. It's all a chess match right now. It's a battle of the wills and a few other things. Brett will be at training camp and there will be no retirement ceremony on September 8th.
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And, yes, lol, crazycatlady: Rodgers will undoubtedly suffer a broken nail between now and then (whenever then is). If I were him, I'd be the one asking for my release.

He was 100% FORCED into retirement.
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SarahB: you are very observant. NO ONE introduce