to DartPlayer07
yes i know spelling is just awefull. i dont write very well either. when i write I can atleast try to cover up my terrible spelling with bad penmenship(sp)haha

I ditched crazycharter years ago and I never looked back they are the biggest rip off around. Quit giving them you money. I have direct tv, premium pkg, with 3 movie channels and still pay less than I ever did with Charter. I do also get the big 10 network and the nfl network, so charters claim that they are watching out for their customers is bull----- ,, they are watching out for their yearly bonuses. Period...

There are 4 tv's in my house. I watch about 3 shows per week. Period! Does that make me a couch potato? I would rather be on my computer.
But, if in the off chance I choose to watch something different than the kids or my other half, I can go do that on another TV. For Miss HGTV (applause) good for you that your a do it your selfer. I could comment that you need a do it yourself "spelling" channel but I guess that would just be mean, eh? You don't give a rats about football but WE do! We don't give a rats about HGTV. That is what makes us all different. I still think we should be able to choose the channels we WANT. I would pay the 70 cents to see MY Packers play and the 10 cents for MY Badgers.

For starters, it is my opinion on what I like to watch no different than any other person. I hate wrestling, so please, don't think I watch that lame stuff. Also, I found out it in an article that the NFL Network would only cost 70 cents a month extra. THATS IT! If no-one can afford 70 cents than they shouldn't have cable. My point on the channels is this, you fortunately get to have all your wonderful channels and I cannot get my favorite one in the world for a measley 70 cents. It just pissed me off, on top of the fact G.B. lost. I feel sorry for those who drove to Oshkosh to stay at a hotel just to watch the game on a t.v. I wonder how much that cost them, I think more than 5 years worth of NFL Network (70 cents)in one night alone! That is my point.

Oh and your right, BBC is British, I definately need to know whats going on over there. Its still a wasted channel.

Gosh I can't stand Charter.

to. snazzyj1977.
there are 2 people in my household one man and one woman and neither of us give a rats butt about football.or anyother sports. i dont ever chose to watch but if i go to a party or it is ont tv in a bar i do watch it and it is entertaining. theyre talented yes over paid heck yeah. so how is this any different than watching lifetime???? games take way longer than a silly lifetime movie.ever see sports called wrestling now that is the worst soap i have ever seen and dont watch either.

and to the people that complain alot about being a couch potatoe. i believe if you dont work and NEVER leave the tube then yes you need a job and ge toff the couch and i am sure there out there. if you just watch after work to relax what is the problem with that. people work all day and who wants to go EXCERCIZE some more after working 8-10-12 plus hours aday. sorry the brain needs a tv -dont think about anything but that- break. i watch hgtv ALOT and decorate and design my own home and interior decorators and others think i may have a degree in decorating. so tv seems to do okay for me. I must be learning something and saving money in labor.What benifit do the football watches get from watching . maybe if they play sports in school or coach then there could be somethings learned from watching.and who can resist tbs,monk ,house and liftime shows like reba law and order station,usa,. everybody enjoys watching different things so dont bash anyone for it all of those who are. i am sure people that watch sports all day on sunday are wondering why i would watch hgtv all day instead and vice versa but that is what each of us like.

that would be awesome if we could chose top 40 favorite stations and just pay for them. if there is anything once in a while that you dont pay for you can pay per view just like now on direct.

fisherhouse3, so in other words, you want us to drive (with the price of gas so high) and try to find a place with a dish (basically a bar). Then you'd have to purchase something so as not to look like a freeloader.
Sorry. I am no couch potato. I don't sit around all day watching television. And I sure am not about to make new friends at the pub.

Well said Irish_Mafia. A lot of people seem to think that just because you say that you watch TV or contribute to these message boards that it must be all that you do all day. I, for one, go to school full-time, work part-time, and also have an internship that takes up 20 hours a week. Any time that I get to myself these days is MY time and if I choose to sit and watch some TV or talk on some message boards it does not mean that I am a couch potato. I too, love the SVU marathons..I just wish they wouldn't repeat the episodes so much.

"It sad to see so many couch potatoes."

After being on my feet for a 12 hour shift at work, though, sitting down for an SVU marathon or the news is nice. Mind your own business.

I just wanted to create the word doo-doo-headism. BTW, my posts are often full of sarcasm. Or feeble attempts at sarcasm...

*BBC America (religious), *

Good comment, but, the BBC America is not a religious channel...unless you worship the British.

It sad to see so many couch potatoes. Did anyone hear of getting some excerise by walking to your car and opening the door and closing it. Drive to someplace that has a dish and watch it for FREE there. Then getting more exercise by getting back into your car and going home. Who knows maybe you might even find a new friend in the process.

...how about a nice group "GO PACK!!" to let out some of the tension built up here, folks :)

c'mon...you know you want to :)

GaryPrimer: The insinuation of BlackIrish's alliance with the UN by association with the French by being Irish was so outlandish, I never dreamed anyone would take it seriously.
I am amazed and disappointed at the same time.

BI: I do hope you realize that was a joke.
Cute example of irony though- sarcasm to counter sarcasm results in literal interpretation.

i have the charter package phone, internet and cable. it's an ok deal but you still have charter moving channels around i don't have the box. so now i don't have the same channels g4 for one my kids love that channel, now to get that i'd have to get the box. it's like buying ornges and getting apples. then they give you another shopping network and raise your rates.i'd like to know who's choosing what we like to watch.

A letter to Charter:

Charter,

You already overcharge me for channels I don't want. With the multiple price hikes every 3 months, you should be obligated to give us NFL Network. Your voice is heard non-football fans, don't think so? Did you all now I can't get NFL Network because my T.V. has to make room for Lifetime, Lifetime Movie Network, Womens Entertainment, Soap Network, Oxygen, Jewelry Televison, Hallmark Channel, 3 EWTN channels (religious), Home Shopping Network, BBC America (religious), the 16 Latin channels, 2 Inspirational Networks (religious), Gospel Music channel (religious), Daystar, FamilyNet, Smile Of A Child, JCTV (religious), The Church channel (religious), and Trinity Broadcasting (religious).

I will bet you all a million dollars that these people you polled to say they don't care to have the NFL Network, are most likely the people who watch the channels listed above.

I rest my case.

Oh, I am sorry, my comment was removed. Does Bliss Communications have ties with Charter? Sounds like it. I should be able to state my opinion.

All I said was Charter is already expensive, and we all know it. Price hikes galore. We get a letter stating the price increases at least 3 times a year. I think they owe it to us to give the NFL Network.

They use to carry the NFL Network a few years back. It was and would be still, one of my favorite channels of all time.

They are concerned with people not wanting to pay for an unwanted channel? I laugh at the stupidity of these polls or means of getting results to say that no one wants to pay extra for this channel. I don't want to pay extra for at least 50% of the channels I get now. I have to get packages to get a channel or two. So techinally I am overcharged for garbage I never watch. When is my say a liable grievance. It's not. The problem is Charter. I am already overcharged, you might as well charge me for my favorite channel. You do with channels I don't want. Whats the difference?

I love the NFL Network. And in my opinion, if your a Packer fan, you would love it too. And if you don't love this channel, to me, your not a football fan in general.

I for one am disgusted by the lack of civility being displayed by the participants in this discussion. Please refrain from personal attacks against other posters. If you disagree with someone's opinion, post a comment explaining why. If we continue down this path, there will be no enlightenment, only thinly-veiled ethnic slurs, pseudo-obscenities, and accusations of doo-doo-headism.

LOL, don't personally attack YOU? After you're calling people 'little brains'.
This IS a forum for free speech, and nobody is 'hiding' behind a computer. Pot/Kettle.

I would love "a la carte" programming choices. I've been wishing for it for years. LOL Lord knows I don't watch/need the numerous home shopping, religious and Univision stations. It feels like a waste that I'm being forced to pay for channels I never watch! Being able to pick and choose would be awesome. I think it's sad that there can't be some compromise made for the NFL and Big Ten networks. Just goes to show that it's not about the programming but how much money they get you to spend.

Chitown:
I really like your idea of a la carte programming, but I don't think Charter or any other big cable company will ever go for it. I live in an apartment where I can't have a satellite dish, so cable is my only option..well..other than rabbit ears. I don't think I need umpteen shopping channels and 4 religious channels, but you gotta take the lumps in life I suppose. One good thing I have to say about Charter is that their OnDemand programming is fabulous. I can watch movies or repeats of certain shows for free at anytime. As for me and the Packer game, I'm fortunate to have a brother with DirectTV, so I'll be there for the game. GO PACK!

What a HORRIBLE state of things... that one company in a free market society chooses to do thing differently than another company! The outrage! Certainly this is something our taxpayer dollars should address RIGHT AWAY- perhaps we can cut out some of the Free and Reduced Lunch programs so we can create and enforce legislation against Big Cable!
Why, I'd never know my little Bratney is exposed to lead through her Dora the Explorer Chairman Mao tea set if I didn't have CNN to tell me!
Shame on you, BlackIrish, to suggest that 7 TVS is too much! Remember after 9/11, BUSH said to go shopping??? What are you, UNAMERICAN? Oh yeah, you're IRISH so you must be like the FRENCH!!! Wimp!
(Psst. Blackirish I agree)
In real life, I dislike TV - by CHOOSING not to purchase Dish OR cable, I've saved myself $12,000 so far in my adult life.

I looked in to Direct TV it is just as much as a rip off as charter. Yes they have BTN, NFL & more HD. They also have no on demand, bad in storms, and to get all the premiums that I have with charter would cost $100/mo. with 2yr subscripion (when I talked to the people at star). $120 with phone, internet, HD, and all movies with ondemand from cable. No thanks I will keep charter the lesser of two evils.

As for BTN and NFL I wouldn't take if they had it. I love football. Season tix. for badgers for 15yr. But how much money do they need. It already costs $200 just for the right to buy tix. BTN want's $1.10 from us but only $.10 from non big ten states. What a joke. The only reason they made it was because ABC/ESPN gave them $7 million to make it, and like the NFL needs an more money. I will save my money and get the game on WCLO. It will not change my life if I miss a bunch of millionaires run around for one night. Like the world will stop if I miss one packer game.

cable is such a rip off you don't get half of the channels you want, and you get all the channels you don't need or want. we have 9 tv's in our house and all of them have receivers and 2 are have tivo, after paying for all the receivers and monthly service its still cheaper than charter and we get every badger/packer game. we also get every Chicago sports teams game. Bottom line everyone who cares to watch their teams play will have to switch becuase the cable compinies will never pay the price to get the NFL network or the BIG10 network.

this is an open forum dont tell people not to share their thoughts/opinions/stories, if you dont want to read everyones posts than dont post anything yourslef

Blue21- You shouldn't have to feel the need to explain yourself to fault-finding nit-pickers like BI, who obviously gets some sort of vicarious thrill out of getting a rise out of others. Usually those types of insecure loners living in a glass house are the first to throw stones. Methinks he gets some sort of self validation from the reaction he gets from his attacks. I would be personally very interested to hear what his top-ten ways of living a perfect life are, so that the rest of us cretins may all benefit from his wisdom and experience- making the world a perfect, harmonic place.... Oh, I'm sorry, that was waaaayyy off topic...

Hey, BlackIrish, thanks for ASSuming things.
Actually, the home I bought came with all appliances, fridge, stove, hot tub, and yes, 7 televisions. There is one in the garage (hubby LOVES watching the games while he works on his bike). One in the living room, one in the rec room, one in the kitchen (for when we are waking up with a cup of coffee in the morning) and one in each bedroom.
No, sorry to disappoint you, our family communicates just fine. We turn on the extra cable channels in the winter as the hockey games my children are in aren't half as numerous as the softball games. Just because the televisions are there, doesn't mean that we have them on 24/7.
Note-I felt the need to explain because of the ignorant assumption made.

CHiTownMavis I agree. My girlfriend from St. Louis emailed the other day and asked why in the heck if we live in Wisconsin didn't we get a Badgers game. Same thing again, only this time we can't get the Packers game. I would gladly give up my "Latino" tier package for my Badgers and Packers. Oh and take the home shopping channels crap with it!

Wow...I'm not worried...I can tune into AM 1230 and listen to the game. Then I can catch the highlights on ESPN on Friday morning. I can't believe I actually posted a debate on this non-issue. Back to reality.

Chitown, I had to say that I love your idea. In fact so much that last year I wrote a paper on how cable companies (and satelitte companies) could make more money by doing this. In the end, the companies would actually lose money because they have to pay the stations to air them.
What is crazy, is that I am not a big football fan, and I have the NFL channel as part of regular programming.

The cable companies should allow people to hand pick the channels that they want...maybe they could do packages like...30 channels is x number of dollars and 40 channels y...the cable company could send each subscriber a brochure which they check the channels that they want and then send it back to the cable company for a more personalized cable package. For example, my grandma doesn't need 7 Spanish channels and 12 shopping channels, but give her all the sports, news, and local channels and she'd be just peachy. It's just an idea. That way, when there are people who, let's say have 7 TVs (or 5 in the case of my grandma), they can choose between dish and a more reasonable and useful cable package that will work best for their particular situation. Regardless, here's hoping that my grandma and the rest of south central WI gets to watch the game tomorow (I won't get to being stuck down here in Bear country aka hell ;) nonetheless GO PACK!!)

If it weren't for cable internet being so darn expensive, I'd jump over to sat. dish in an instant.

I understand not playing into their hands, but really, all those shopping networks? If getting rid of half of them would evenly pay for the NFL channel, I would vote that way. (Not that Charter cares).

Lets just remember that this is the NFL network holding games hostage.

The NFL Network is refusing to let cable networks have their games unless it's on a basic package and they are demanding a load of money. The cable companies are refusing because not all people care to watch football, and putting it in a basic package would force people who don't watch football to pay a higher basic package cost.

I say listen to it on the radio or go to NFL.com and watch the live update, but don't go to Direct TV or change your TV service because of this. That would be playing into the money grubbing hands of the NFL Network.

to be honest we have dish network on 7 tv with all che pay channels and 4 of are dvr and it is cheaper than cable

I would LOVE to be able to get Dish Network. However, we have televisions in every room just about...7 of them. We had the cable run to the rooms, and only have the two main televisions using the box. If we wanted Dish, I am not about to pay for 7 receivers.

Charter is a rip off. We switched to Dirct tv years ago and wish we had done it sooner. Charter is expensive, and they don't offer what direct tv does, and I can watch the football games college and pro from my living room.

It's a sad state of affairs when a packer fan in Wisconsin can't watch them play such an important game. Did Don King get a hold of the NFL?