A current member of the YM says that the new pool isn't getting much use.

The real point of sarcasm is to insult the other person, it is not the act of analysis as you claim. The act of insulting the other person is to be off the point, to not be analytical, to be unfocused. The original point of my statement was to put personal insults aside and stay on point. If you read it all again you'll see that everyone eventually stated his or her thinking on the new pool. All the extra stuff amounts to insults and analytical responses to those insults. Which I don't mind doing for a while. A long time ago I downloaded a Post Sensor to my computer; otherwise I wouldn't have time for this stuff.

What a crappy quote, Gazetteguy. It makes no sense. you need to think about WHAT you are saying, rather than just thinking, hey, that SOUNDS smart, I'll write it!
Sarcasm requires sufficient understanding of the material to make an abstract point on it. It actually REQUIRES focus and a concious ability to look at a topic from a different angle. Also, why would it have to be CHRONIC distraction?
Subchorionic bifurcation of tremulous warbles sufficiently redress the underlings.See?Sounds interesting, means nothing.

"Dose"? Nice comeback. It's late. Talk to you and the others tomorrow.

I used the word accurately. And my misspelling of it shows it is not a word of the day. And your spelling of it with dashes in tact shows that you just looked it up and still fail to understand what it means.

Blackirish, my analytical mind tells me that your last post is a non-sequitor.

Whitewater has been researched re: this matter and it is the type of pool in question that is the problem there. The lap pool has always been successful in Whitewater and has become even more successful since a lot of people quit the Y here and joined up there.

Looks like this chat is contributing to the potential success of the new pool here. We'll see.

Agreed that kids are better off at the Y than running around town raising hell, whether they use the new pool or not.

PREACH ON RANDOM GUY!!!!

If aquatic centers dont work out, call whitewaters and ask them how well it works out. I think that people are too "old fashioned" to think that this is actually a good idea. I think if you sit back and look at the whole picture you will agree you'd rather have the kids in the pool at the YMCA learning the YMCA core values than running around town raising a ruckus!

I complained once. My other posts were correct responses to other posts. This type of pool has not been sucessful in other places. But now you have a special motivation for making this one successful even if that amounts to joining up, continuing to pay dues, while not continuing to use the new pool. Good luck.

Blackirish, you crack me up, I needed that... Thanks!

I completely agree with randomguy. I for one will also be signing my family up for a membership. Give the YMCA's new aquatic center a chance before bashing what you dont know. People have been working very hard to get this new facility up and working. You should be grateful that they are taking the oppurtunity to upgrade to something that will help more people in the long run. The YMCA is a family based facility, so they must do whatever they can to please the majority of the people that come to the YMCA.

"Sarcasm is the complaint mode of the chronically unfocused."
Ok i agree sarcasm is not needed. But i dont think you sitting on here just complaning about the YMCA makes much sense. I for one agree with the YMCA and will sign my family up for a membership. There is a VERY good reason why the YMCA's motto is "We build strong KIDS, strong FAMILIES and Strong Communities"

Sarcasm is the complaint mode of the chronically unfocused.

Complaining about something that can't be changed is not necessarily senseless. What can change in such cases is the psychological state of the complainer. It's venting. The Gazette story triggered it. Just like the posts here triggered your complaints about something you can't change: the resentment of many for what was done to the big pool.

As for the objects of our complaints, once the membership learned of the decision, Y management had the opportunity rethink not only the project but also the fact that the decision was made without appealing to that membership.

While all this is not a fatal betrayal, it is certainly a betrayal that will linger for a while.

The old pool configuration was not accessible to the young nor the disabled. If you could not handle steps or minimum 3 ft of water, the pool was not usable. With the new configuration, there is still lap swimming, the slightly disabled and the young can get into the pool without injury, and there is much more room for the water aerobics (which is adding more classes all the time). Adding to that the ability to train and walk against the current, makes this pool even more useful than the old configuration. With the current channel, you could actually "lap swim" in place indefinitely. If you desire "traditional" lap swimming, use the lap pool. Seems to me the people complaining are just mad because "their" pool was retasked. The new configuration will actually serve more and a wider range of the membership than the old configuration ever did.

STOP complaining , MY GOD , people here can find something bad with anything the PAPAER prints

I did not mean to imply that people who have pulled their memberships do not have the right to complain any longer. I'm not one for censorship. I guess I just don't understand the sense in continuing to complain about things that have already happened and about the actions at an institution that a person has chosen to pull their investment out of. Complaining is not going to will the new pool away, nor will it cover up the supposed "destruction of a YMCA instituion" as gazettefan asserts. What's the answer? I don't know. But what is done is done. And it opened today...

I initially was excited to hear Janesville was going to have an aquatic center; you failed my expectations. By the photo, this doesn't impress me. I will still travel to Whitewater to enjoy their aquatic center there which is much larger and has more kid friendly items.

I did quit. And from what I've heard so did about a hundred other members.

As for those who didn't quit, if remaining a member is still advantageous for them, they didn't give up their rigth to complain about a major mistake.

Here's what I don't understand about all the complaints about the YMCA pool--are all the people who are complaining actually members? Or past members who have pulled their memberships because they didn't agree with the renovations? If you're so upset with the pool and the steps that were taken by YMCA board members to get where they are now, why not take your money elsewhere like Big Mike? I don't give my hard earned money to organizations or agencies that make decisions that I don't agree with. I flex my consumer muscle.

The new pool will eventally be a failure. The luster will soon wear off. Recreational swimming is a summer seasonal thing. It's a break from the warm and hot days of summmer.

The inclination to take kids from freezing weather to an indoor pool then back out again into freezing temperatures will wither.

The whole thing is a fadish, glory-mongering, "baby sitting" feature that has led to the destruction of a YMCA institution.

Marshall Middle School has lap swim in the AM before school and every day from 6-8 at night for 2 bucks. It is awesome and there is a lot of people there. I am glad leisure services is getting my money. Would be interesting to see the difference in membership with people leaving because of the pool and people who will now join because of the new pool.

I just got back from the Y. What a waste of space. The "pool" looks so small. Not many people will fit in it. It looks like a glorified wading pool. And the lap pool is now too small for serious lap swimmers. And gives less time for water workouts. Shoulda just left things the way they were.

Acer--The city council took the new outdoors aquatics center off the table last night in a special study session. There is a public hearing on January 28th about the two recommendations that the city manager gave last night if you're interested. It's too bad you didn't catch the meeting last night--very informational and facts driven. It was beneficial in helping me to form an educated opinion about what the city should focus on as far as the aquatics facilities are concerned.

I'll be unable to attend this travesty...I mean, "splashy debut". I guess my opinion really doesn't matter since I live out of state and I'm only in town once or twice a year, but this bothers me.

Where are people supposed to swim laps now? If I remember, the other pool is fairly dinky...20 yards with only 4 lanes. Tell me they increased this to a regulation 25 yard or meter pool!

Middle and High School swim team members lookinhg for a place to practice in the off season as well as adults wanting a good non-impact exercise seem to be the big losers here.

I hope this pool gets some use. I guess the city can use this as a guage to see whether a new outdoors aquatics center is really necessary. I say just make improvements to Rockport pool and be done with it!